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Scalable, or sketchy?
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Scalable, or sketchy?

If your growth loop requires magical thinking, infinite scale, or customers to do your sales job, congrats—you’ve designed a sketchy startup.

Some startup growth theories are a work of art. Others are a crime scene. This week on Zero to Traction, JDM, Cameron, and Cass put startup expansion plans under the microscope in Scalable, or Sketchy, where growth loops either pass the test — or spiral into oblivion.

✅ What real growth theory looks like (and what investors are actually looking for)

✅ Why “we’ll figure out premium later” is startup Russian roulette

✅ The truth about pirate metrics and how to use them to pressure-test your growth model

✅ Three common startup growth theories examined: the freemium flywheel, the B2B land-and-expand dream, and the two-sided marketplace myth

✅ How founders accidentally design expansion strategies that work against them

Also: Cam considers quitting Eventbrite out of spite, JDM reminds you that less than 1% of the internet creates content, and both hosts fully embrace their “Safety Third” startup coaching energy.


Game Recap: Scalable or Sketchy?

Creator Economy Flywheel

  • Pitch: Free creator tools → followers see content → followers become creators → infinite loop

  • Red flags: Freemium without a premium strategy; creator-to-creator conversion math doesn’t math

  • Verdict: Sketchy. Very.

“You can’t scale by hoping your customers will do your sales job for you.” – JDM

B2B SaaS Land and Expand

  • Pitch: Sell to one department → internal champions spread it → company-wide adoption → revenue grows automatically

  • Red flags: Assumes departments share budgets; ignores the painful reality of selling seat by seat

  • Verdict: Sketchy. Classic founder delusion.

“This isn’t ‘land and expand.’ This is ‘land and then cold call your way across the org.’” – Cam

Two-Sided Marketplace Dream

  • Pitch: Service providers list offers → customers come for variety → demand attracts more providers → infinite scale

  • Red flags: Chicken-and-egg problem; ignores user trust; assumes providers won’t defect off-platform

  • Verdict: Sketchy. The infinity loop is broken.

“This is startup wish-casting dressed up as strategy.” – JDM


Frivolous Thoughts

  • JDM: The wisdom of “Safety Third” for startup founders: protect yourself after you ship.

  • Cam: TikTok inspired reflection: Stop obsessing over your 20-year future self. What would “future you” do today?

  • Cass: Pretty sure Cam and JDM being cranky equals their best episode energy yet.

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