Zero to Traction
Zero to Traction
The "your pitch is not your business" edition
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The "your pitch is not your business" edition

It's time for hot takes and full-on rants, friends! JDM and Cameron are on the warpath — your pitch doesn't matter as much as you think it does. So let's talk about what actually matters.

In this episode of the Zero to Traction podcast, co-hosts JDM and Cameron discuss the common misconception among first-time founders that a great pitch deck equates to a great business.

It's time for hot takes and full-on rants, friends! JDM and Cameron are on the warpath — your pitch doesn't matter as much as you think it does. So let's talk about what actually matters.

They emphasize that while a pitch deck is a tool, it should not be the primary focus. Instead, founders should concentrate on creating a solid business.

They break down the importance of various business elements like traction, market size, and team, and explain how investor feedback, questions, and skepticism can be used as data to improve the business rather than just the pitch.

They conclude, as always. with some lighthearted “frivolous thoughts” and encourage listeners to focus on building a valuable, evidence-backed startup.


Zero to Traction is a weekly podcast about how first-time founders create companies that scale, co-hosted by Cameron Law, Executive Director of the Carlsen Center for Innovation and Entrepreneurship at Sac State, and JDM aka Josh David Miller, who facilitates the launch of scale of startups at The Right Box.

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